Every once and a while a stranger begins to have this incredible impact on your life. That stranger brings you inspiration, faith, hope and causes you to pause in life and think about something bigger than you to do list. This is exactly the impact that Denis is having on me…..a stranger to me just a short time ago…..but with each of her posts creating a special bond, a special place in my heart, and a big impact on my life! I hope her personal story series is having the same wonderful impact on you!
Denise looks back to the day of her Myomectomy…
MYOMECTOMY! It has been 8 1/2 months since that momentous day in September. The day I could have died. Yet, the day my hope of having a baby was renewed. It was the day of my Myomectomy. Even now, a part of me cringes at the mere mention of that word. But another part of me says, “Thank you God. Thank you for giving me hope.”
“What’s the big deal?”, you might ask, “What could be so horrible, yet so hopeful, about one simple word?” Well, I will tell you. An abdominal myomectomy is a painful and intense surgery used to remove non-cancerous growths called fibroids from a woman’s uterus. See, in order to conceive my little Jaydon, I needed this surgery because there were fibroids blocking both of my fallopian tubes. Many women in my position, who no longer desire children, would opt for a hysterectomy, a surgery which removes a woman’s uterus and any chance she has of having a baby. However, the purpose of a myomectomy is to preserve the woman’s uterus and her chances of conceiving a child. Thank God for modern science providing the ability to preserve my uterus. But, for me, this surgery was more intense than for most.
The hospital staff put me under general anesthesia and everything went black. The surgeon, whom I will refer to by code name as Dr. Mike, thought there were only about 7 or 8 of these pesky fibroids to remove. But, once he got in there, he discovered there were 27 fibroids. I should point out that the number and size of the fibroids determine how pervasive the surgery will be. The sizes of my fibroids ranged from tiny to huge. My poor uterus! No wonder it was the size of a 16-week pregnancy. To find and remove these 27 fibroids, Dr. Mike made an incision in my bikini line, almost hip to hip (similar to the incision used for a C-section). He invaded my body with his tools and removed the fibroids, cutting them out the old fashioned-way, with a scalpel. Dr. Mike did his best to restructure my uterus to maximize my chances of getting pregnant.
Let’s not forget the emergency blood transfusion. Fibroids, by nature, tend to bleed. I lost way more blood than expected. I woke up to find that I had low blood pressure and the whole time I was in the hospital they had to keep a watch on it. In fact the day I was released, they had originally decided to hold me because my blood pressure was too low. Then there was the danger of nicking other organs, like my bladder. He didn’t nick my bladder, but God knows it felt like it. I was not comfortable urinating for at least 3 1/2 weeks after the surgery. Each time I went to the bathroom, I thought my insides were dropping out.
Once the surgery is done and they stitch you up, you are forced to get out of bed within 12 to 24 hours. I cannot express the pain. Your internal organs have been massacred! You’re doped up on drugs for the pain, and you have to walk around. It’s not fun at all!!!! I was out of work for a total of six weeks and still was not 100% ready to go back. But, I needed to get back to work as soon as I could. I would say it was another 3 or 4 weeks before I felt totally back to my old self again.
Six weeks after the surgery Dr. Mike performed a follow-up SIS to check my uterus and then a follow-up HSG to check my fallopian tubes and outer uterus. Praise God! Good News!!! The surgery worked. There was NO scar tissue and both my fallopian tubes were OPEN!! No blockage. The surgery was a raving success! I could try to conceive six weeks from the date of these tests!! I left there on cloud 9. My hope of conceiving was renewed. So, I guess a part of me doesn’t cringe at the word. MYOMECTOMY, as it will allow me to conceive my little Jaydon, I admit that I’m now happy to say, “Myomectomy.” I will shout it from the highest rooftop!!! And Yes, I will do it again in a heartbeat. My little Jaydon is worth it!!!!
Denise
“With God All Things Are Possible”
leslie says
Hi
My name is Leslie and reading this story has brought me hope. You see Im about to have a myomectomy on September 2011 and I scared to death. But due both my fallopian tubes being blocked and my desire for more children I have to get the surgery. I have 3 fibroids the largest one being about 9cm which is an a intramural on my anterior wall. My fear is me waking up with no uterus , no fallopian tubes or not waking up at all. Im 43 with a fsh score of 8.53 which means I could still get pregnant ,but this darn fibroid is in the way , or at least I hope for this is my second myomectomy , had my first one 2001, which means it could also be scar tissue also. So Im also having another operation to repair any other problems with my uterus.My Dr. told me he will make my uterus look like new. I dont want to do IVF for thats my last option.
leslie says
HEY well this is Leslie and I survived the operation and im back at work.
Doctors have even given me the ok to try for a baby. But my partner who I assumed wanted a girl , found out through my beautiful doctors( talk about privacy issues) now refuses to have a baby with me.So not only did I risk my life , I had the surgery for nothing, nothing at all. Im 43 and if I dont try soon it wont happen.
laugirl says
Leslie, my heart goes out to you for what you went through. I have a similar story. Me and my husband had been trying to conceive for the past 2 years. We did clomid and iui’s for several cycles. Finally my RE referred me to one of his ob/gyn docs. They recommended a myomectomy. I had one very large fibroid. My husband and I decided to go through with the surgery. My surgery was October 5th, 2011. He decided to divorce October 21st, yes…DIVORCE! I couldn’t believe it! After dealing with the shock and wide range of emotions, I now realize he did me the biggest favor! And he just made it easier for the next guy;). Life hands you lemons, better make some damn good lemonade! I wish the best for you…good will come from this:)
Rose says
I am having a myomectomy next week and after reading what u went tru, i am so scared and dreading thr moment….. Happy u are now well xxx
Erica says
Hi
My name is Erica. I too exprienced a myomectomy had to after i found out it contributed to my miscarriage.yes!!! It was scary and recovery was painful. Im kindda concernedr that I havnt gotten pregnant yet. Im 34 and my clock is ticking! Im a firm believer of god so maybe its not my time. But after having a disappointing miscarriage i do want a baby!!!! i have no children but i know the most high will bless me with one.
Flory Tettey says
Thank you all for giving me hope…..l was totaly discouraged but now am encouraged.
May says
I had a myomectomy in June and now trying to conceive. It was a big deal for me but thank God for safety.
I know God will perfect it all!
bri says
I am confuse..need suggestions and prayer..had a late pregnancy loss the doctors are not sure why..one said it’s a possibility the fibroids played a part and another said they are not the cause..they are two experienced obgyn and I dont know who to believe or what to do..
..should I go through with the myomectomy. .I am scared either which way keep the fibroids and risk the chance of another loss or go through the operation and risk the chance of never having children…I’m trying to be positive believe me I am… can someone please reply
Joanne says
Hi Joy,
I’m so sorry to hear what you are going through. We are not doctors here at Circle+Bloom so I can’t offer you any medical advice. Just know that my best thoughts and prayers are with you. Your resilience in trying to stay positive is truly inspiring and I really believe that is one of the best thinks you can do for yourself. Just know you have an entire community out here ready to support you 🙂
ENGINEER GREAT says
My girlfriend has fibroud and the Dr says its the size of 5months pregnancy, pls what does that mean? myomectomy is scheduled to be performed on her less than a month from now, she has not given birth before, just had one abortion and i know she has to get pregnant after this to avoid the growth of the fibroud.. pls what are the risk after the surgery and what is the duration to get pregnant after the surgery?? pls ur reply will be highly appreciated….
ENGINEER GREAT says
Your reply will be highly appreciated……..
ScaredAndHappy says
Hi, I had a myomectomy in october 2013 and my surgery was a success, I had to wait 4 six weeks before having sex now its december 2013 and I just discovered that I’m pregnant 3 days ago but I’m scared cause its too ealry, pls pls if anyone know the complications related to pregnancy two months after a myomectomy pls respond to me on my email address tmagoro1@gmail.com thank u
Joanne says
Hello,
Sorry to hear about what you and your girlfriend are going through. We are not doctors so I can’t answer your medical questions. The best thing would be to go to the Dr with these questions, they will be much better able to answer your concerns and explain the details of her case. My best wishes are with you and your girlfriend.
Angie says
Hello everyone my name is Angie I just had a myomectomy in Nov 2013 also. All of your comments have helped me tremendously. When I was operated md had seen in the ultrasound 5 big fibriods when I was opened he found 14! I was really scared before the operation but it is worth it. Because all of my heavy painful bleeding every month have decreased tremendously. Now hubby and I are planning to work on concieving after 3 months since I had an ectopic pregnancy before. I wish we could staet earlier but MD said 3months. So we are praying and hoping for the BEST! GOD IS ABLE! I will keep everyone in my prayers.
Angie says
I forgot to mention I was out of work for 7weeks. It is important that you heal properly. I want to know if anyone has gotten pregnant. before 3 months after myomectomy.. thanks
EMILY says
Hie
i too had a myomectomy surgery on the 20th of october 2013.I was afraid.My doctor removed 8 of those fibroids.After about 6 weeks i went for my review.The doctor told me that my right tube was totally blocked and there was no hope that it was going to function.He gave me 6 months of trying to have a baby and if that fails he was going to give me some fertility tablets.I tried and within some weeks of trying,i found out i was pregnant.I am so happy guys
DIANNE EBEIGBE says
Hello everyone my name is Dianne going in for my myomectomy surgery on the 13th of feb really scared but my faith tells me all will be well i believe God will perfect everything in Jesus name amen.. i plan to start trying for a baby as soon as the Dr gives me the all clear… Denise your story has really giving me hope that all will be well in time… wish me luck guys……and good luck to everyone else going for it we wud all have great testimonies Amen
konyana says
Hi
I had myomectomy last week. Last year semptember I lost my son after giving birth. Doctors told me I have 3 fibroids. Last week I found out I have 8 fibroids. They could only take out 6. Doctor said I can try to have a bby again. Its scary to know the fibroids might grow again.
konyana says
Dianne Ebeigbe. I will like to know how your myomectomy surgery went as me and you did it on the same day. Hope u r doing well. Am still vomiting and having pains now and again but everything went well.
Akosua says
Hello everyone, I found out almost four years ago that I had fibroid at the age of 24. I was so scared that it took me three years to decide to do the myomectomy. I only made that bold decision due to the excessive menstrual bleeding and most importantly the fear of never having children. I had a successful surgery on 29th Oct. 2013 thanks to my gynaecologist. He is such an artist coz the incision/scar just below my abdomen isn’t very visible. Recovery was fine except for a rise in temperature due to a fever which lasted for a little over a week. I rushed back to work on the 25th Nov, 2013 becos my boss was resigning from work and needed me to take over from him. It wasn’t easy going back to work just about 3 weeks after the surgery but I thank God and my family for taking care of me during these had times; mum thanks for bathing me for two weeks. Now my only problem is finding the right man and husband to have kids with.
20th Feb, 2014
Daija says
Hi Denice, Your story is very encouraging. I have a
myomectomy scheduled for April 2014. I am a lil nervous
but excited too. I have multiple fibroids blocking me
from conceiving. But God is Good this I know an he will
prevail!! Looking forward to weathering this procedure
An becoming a Mom one day soon
.
Jennifer says
I have several fibroids. I found out today that one of them is the size of an orange, and is at the top of my uterus. The other is a size of a lemon in the lower part. The concerning one is the one at the top, as it could stop me from conceiving. I want to have a baby so bad and am so scared. The nurse said she wasn’t sure if they could operate on them depending on where they were. Does anyone know about this? Do you think they could operate on the one on top of my uterus that is the size of an orange? I can’t see the doctor until next Thursday and this is killing me. 🙁
pearl says
I also had a myomectomy done in November 21st. I have six fibriods removed. Now onces in a while i do experience pain. I have being trying to get pregnant now. I did have a follow up in three works after the procedure, and the doctor said everything looks good. I didnt have any HSG done. After reading Denize story i wounder whether i should call and make an appiontment for HSG to make sure everything is okay like he said. Do you think i should make another appiontment to the doctor.? I also want to know how long does it take to get pregnant after having myomectomy.?
Audrey says
Hello everyone..
I just got back from seeing a specialist and they confirmed that I have a fibroid that is 17cm big (approx.5-6 inches). I have never been pregnant before and would love to have a child of my own one day . The specialist had informed me that if I went ahead with an abdominal myomectomy and they couldn’t stop the bleeding then they would have to do a hysterectomy. I am so scared to wake up after surgery knowing that my dreams of having a child would come to an end. I read all of the above postings although very few of you included your age. The reason I am saying that is this specialist made it sound as though I am asking for the impossible. I am 43yrs old and she made it seem as though hysterectomy was the better option since it is less stress on a 43 yr old body. Are there any women in here in their 40s, who have never been pregnant and had a myomectomy and got pregnant afterwards??? or am I truly asking for the imposible??? :((
Feel free to email me if you want my email is onyxaustin@gmail.com
Thanks….
Linda says
I’m 34 had myo on 3wks ago,27fibroids were removed.saw my doc yester and he said i can start trying for a baby immediately.No pain,had normal periods 10days after op never had a child and this is my 2nd myo.The 1st myo was 5yrs ago the largest 18 cm,My friends don,t wait they will again in less than 2yrs
nina says
I have had two myomectomys and now I’m going to have a third. I have never been pregnant and i am 40 years old. The first surgery was in 2000 and everything was good, but no man in site for me at that time, so the fibroids grew back, and so in 2010 I have a second myomectomy, but this time I had a fiancé. So that surgery went well and my doctors said I could try and get pregnant. So I tried and tried, with fertility care because my doctor told me that I didn’t need that because I was producing eggs and all my levels were normal. My fiancé had a semen analysis done and everything was great with him and me as well now, that I have had my second myomectomy. So as the years went on and we kept trying, nothing. So I went back to the doctors and it 2014 and the told me that I have several fibroids again, but one big one inside the uterus called a sub mucus fibroid, which is blocking the sperm from getting were it needed to be. So now I’m going to be having my third myomectomy at my age and my husband and I want children. So anyone out there around my age having a third myomectomy and got pregnant and a safe delivery and healthy baby? Please let me know..
Nina. Here is me email address for replys. katrinaflowers66@yahoo.com
finsie says
Thanks to all the ladies for their inspiring stories. I’m 34 yrs old and after 2 miscarriages I decided to go ahead with the myomectomy. I had my surgery on the 1st of April 2014 and went back for the doc visit today he examined the cut and my uterus and said they are healing fine and I should start trying to conceive right away because of my age and that only 40 percent of women conceive after myomectomy. I was shock because I’ve never heard that before and he never mentioned that before surgery, so if any of you ladies know of anything like that pls shed some light. My hubby and I would really like to have a child soon since it was so sad after the miscarriages. I wish all of you about to do the surgery good luck and its not as bad as it seems and baby dust to all of us trying to conceive.
Carly Boice says
Where do I even begin? I have been on an emotional rollercoaster ride for what feels like years. I will make my comments short . I am set to have my open myomectomy on Sept 15th .I need prayers because I’m scared for a lot of reasons. I’m 43 yrs old and after seeing a fertility Dr in trying to conceive we realized that without taking these fibroids out I have no chance because of their sizes and locations . They have distorted the shape and size of my uterus and now affecting the lining of endometrium line as I also suffer from endometriosis. My husband and I in the last 3 rs have gone through so much all the while getting stronger together. My body has been through surgery for ( what turned out to be not cancerous) breast cancer and a previous protuding fibroid surgery. All that happened before and right after we got married and as we get ready to celebrate our 1st anniversary and facing yet another surgery, I can’t help but think of God and his plans for us. I’m glad to have stumbled accross this blog , it is encouraging . Please pray for us as we hope to have a child and have a successful surgery oh yes we’re in MA and because of my age and timing I’m only allowed one IVF cycle to be used by Oct 20th and yes by the look of it ,I will need an extension from Tufts health plan and it’s rarely extended for someone my age so I’ve heard from my Drs. So you see I need a miracle..
Thank you so much
C
Joanne says
Hi Carly,
Thanks so much for sharing your story. Please know that we are always here to listen and act as a resource. We will be keeping you in our hearts and prayers as you undergo your procedure and prepare for your IVF treatment. I would suggest trying our IVF Program in October – it has worked wonders for so many women and is extremely effective at relieving stress and tapping into the power of your innate mind-body connection.
We wish you all the best!
Beablly says
I am 40 years old and am going to have 3 fibroids removed through robotic myomectomy. My husband and I have been ttc for a while now. I am really worried and praying that everything goes well tomorrow. I really want to keep hearing about ladies my age getting pregnant after their procedures. I will post back with news about how the surgery went.
Joanne says
We will be keeping you in our thoughts, Bea!
Best of luck and we hope that your procedure goes smoothly.
Eva says
I just had my myo 17 september 2014 trying to recover
Joanne says
Hi Eva,
Thanks for reaching out. We hope that you are feeling better everyday and that your procedure went well. We encourage you to be gentle with yourself during this healing period by giving your body the time that it needs to recover and embracing your mind+body connection. Whether it be meditation, a walk in the sun, or journaling, taking time for yourself during the day to relax and center your mind has a profound effect on your body’s ability to heal.
Remember that we are always here to listen and to support you along this journey. Our online community had such a heartfelt response to this blog post and we hope that you are able to find inspiration and strength in their stories, too. We’ll be keeping you in our thoughts and prayers.
Warm wishes,
Joanne
vivian says
Hi, am 30 and married since two years, ve been trying to concieve since then only to find out thathat I have two submucous fibroids the biggest mearsured 6cm & according to MD is distorting ,expanded the shape of my uterus. I just had an open mymectomy a week ago and the doctor said I can start trying after three months to allow my body heal. Was wondering if there’s anyone who has had submucousal fibroid surgery that is successfully pregnant. Don’t even know whether the three months is enough for me to heal considering its submucous and my uterus was cut open. Looking forward to getting pregnant in some months time
Joanne says
Dear Vivian – I personally do not know what you are asking about – but I hope others will comment if they have had this same experience. What I can offer at least if our thoughts and prayers! Best wishes and please keep us up to date with how things are going for you.
Laura says
I just had my second Myomectomy where my doctor removed the 10 fibroids that we knew where there via an ultrasound and 17 that were in the uterine lining. Praise the Lord I had minimal blood loss. My biggest problem was with some burning around the incision thanks to the surgical glue. We have been told to wait 3 months before we can begin fertility treatments.
Amanda says
I had laparascopic and myomectomy on 9Dec 2014.
I still swell in my stomach after eating. I am ttc and I am 32yrs.
Has any of you fell swelling on stomach after eating.
its now 27days after the surgery.
Akso when do I go back to sex because hubby is wsiting.
Eva says
Thanks Joanne, i’m doing great now & i do appreciate your care towards me. God bless
Amy says
Hi ladies. I am sprry to hear that all of you have been through this. It’s not easy. I have a similar story but I hope mine will gove you hope. When I was 24 I had a myomectomy to remove 19 fibroids, the largest being the size of a grapefruit. The doctor said I looked 22 weeks pregnant. The surgery was mostly successful. I did need to have a blood transfusion and they had to leave some smaller ones in, including one that was too close to my left ovary. The recovery was hard. It took about 6weeks. But I made it through. I am now 30 years old and I am 16 weeks pregnant with my first child. Before I conceived, my doctor told me that I would be considered high risk. But npw that I am pregnant, my doctor says things are going amazingly well and I am not high risk. I do however look very pregnant because during the first trimester the fibroids tend to grow pretty quickly. Thankfully they have not been a problem and fingers crossed, my pregnancy will continue to go smoothly. Good luck ladies.
Joanne says
Hi Amy,
Thanks so much for reaching out and sharing your story. Congratulations on your pregnancy! That’s wonderful news 🙂 We’ll be keeping your in our thoughts and we wish you all the best!
Sincerely,
Joanne
vivian says
Its vivian again, the good news is that am now 5weeks pregnant. Although the doctor said I was to start trying to concieve after the third month but I now concieved in the third month. He said there is nothing to worry about. I just want you people to know that God is still alive and answers prayers, even when we are not faithful he remains faithful to us. Just be positive and have faith. He has answered me and he will answer everyone.
Joanne says
Congratulations, Vivian! That’s wonderful news.
We wish you and your growing family all the best!
iffie says
I had abdominal myomectomy on the 2nd of dec, 2014 with 17 fibroids removed. The surgery was successful, minimal blood loss so no blood transfusion. The doctor said i should wait for 3 months after which i should go for hsg test, but after the 3rd month, i found out that I’m pregnant. Thank you Lord. God that did it for me will perfect it and do it for you too so don’t lose hope.
caro says
Every woman gets scared when told they got fibroids,am no exception.it was damn stressing accepting the reality though,but the thought of not having a baby prompted me to go for the myomectomy.it’s exactly one week since the surgery and am recovering well.I thank God for everything and I pray for all women going through this difficulties,everything gonna be fine, just to trust in God.
LadyT says
I just had a Myomectomy a week ago. I prepared myself for the worst pain offer and worried myself crazy up until surgery. Surgery went well, minimal blood lost and no blood transfusion. The day after surgery I got out of bed and the sutures felt so heavy I could not stand straight. I’m now just being able to stand straight. Ladies, after surgery, wear a binder. My doctor ordered one for me. IT HELPS! So much.
Angel bessazz says
I was recently diagnosed with multiply fibroids after I fell pregnant for the first time in 33yrs after years of trying to get pregnant and been told I would never have kids by doc. My joy was shortlived as I miscarried at 18wks was the worst thing that can happen to a mother I am still grieving. I was told by my doc that I need to get these fibroids removed before trying to conceive again. I have chronic pain radiating through my abdomen pelvic pain and sometimes feel like pressure inside my vagina making it difficult to walk normally. I thought that after the miscarriage id have relief but im having the same symptoms like when I was pregnant I feel pain everyday is that normal? The pain is so bad that I need to take pain killers daily to get by. My surgery is still not scheduled because I need to run some more test first and my womb need to heal first. Can someone please tell me if this has happened to them before.
Joanne says
Hi Angel – We are so sorry to hear about your miscarriage and the pain that you’ve been going through both physically and emotionally. Miscarriage is such a devastating experience and it’s so important to take time for yourself to grieve your loss. If you are at all interested, we have a free program for healing and recovery. You can check it out here: https://circlebloom.com/
healing-recovery-program/. We so appreciate you opening up about your experience. Unfortunately, we are not qualified to offer specific medical advice, but hopefully the other women that read your comment on this blog post will have some insights to share. Would you like to join our secret Facebook community? It’s a wonderful space for sharing and support and we’d be happy to send you an invitation. Simply drop a note to amy@circlebloom.com and we will get back to you. Wishing you all the best ~ Joanne
Denise says
August2015 I went to discuss option for my fibroid update. i have been trying keep track of the growing size. I printed out treatment plans to find best options for me. I am 44 no kids but always wanted one. I wantes to try if it was still possible but my health first. Well, the doctor I met with told me straight to my face I was too old and that I could not have a child anyway. He said my ship has sailed and that I need to forget about having a myomectomy and have a laparodcopy suprcervical hysterectomy due the size. Its size of a baby 17 x10, I could not believe that my specialist I was referred had no compassion for my feeling. I never mention to him that I there for baby but was there for in intense bleeding each month. I was insulted and terrified all in 3min. The tine he spent with me. By the way, he to check my chart for my age since I dont look my age. Plus very healthy never had any medical issues. A second opinion for sure especially after reading all the comments. All I wanted was my mom at that time to make the pain go away, Need advice, please
Tokunbo says
Hi,i am 30 years old. I have been married for a year and 4months. We started trying to conceive in jan 2015. In april i went for a scan cos i notice a swelling on my abdomen and was told i have 5 fibroids,submucosal,intramural and subserosal. I am scheduled for an open myo at the end of august. I am so scared and worried. I pray every day that it is successful and i can end up conceiving.
sheila says
Thank God for a succesful operation,Praying that God see us through Amen.
Tai says
Denise I am so sorry to hear how you were treated by that Dr. I am almost 44 and My Dr. Is pro baby until around age 48 or so. I’m hoping to get a myomectomy soon and be preggo by next year. Please keep us updated. (((Big hugs)))
rebecca says
“With god all things are possible” Thankyou so much ! Thankyou.
Keesha says
God bless you! I had my myomectomey last year. Healed up nicely. Now me and my boyfriend are praying for our baby so please say a prayer for us!!
dineo says
My name is dineo I had myoctomy n ventrosuspension on 31of August 2015,I can’t wait to fall pregnant can u put me in ur prayers
keginah nyakatawa says
had my surgery last month for fibroids and cant wait to be pregnant
Bomsy says
Hi, I’m 39, had a myomectomy in September 2010, was single then, just got married March, 2015 and been trying to concieve since 9 months now but just discovered a re-growth of multiple uterine fibroid again. My doctor adviced I have another myomectomy before trying again. I’m so scared and worried of any possible fertility issues coming up as a result of Having another myomectomy at my age and the possibility of getting a successful pregnancy and child birth without complications coz I use to hear of Scar tissue, dilation, endometriosis, thinning of the uterus etc as a result of Having a surgery talk less of Having it twice. Plz can someone share any tips/advice/experience /story with me? Plz I’m desperate to have my precious unborn little ones plz. Thanks to all.
Allie says
Hi Bomsy glad to find someone who l can relate to. I am here lying on a hospital bed waiting to do my second myomectomy tomorrow, my first was in 2008 and like you l was single, married in 2010 and trying to conceive only to hear that the fibroids are back, l would be 43 next week, so l am here being optomistic that this is the answer, keeping my fingers cross
maud says
I am so inspired with all these stories I was suppose to go for Myomectomy, last year in November but I didn’t have the strength I was so afraid I cried myself to sleep but with all the stories I am reading there is still hope .Thank you ladies
maggy says
Hi i had my first born at 22 in 2003 n now 36 n trying to get pregnant only to discover that i was luck to fall pregnant the first time bcos of the fibroids and also done myomectomy in 2012 oh n it was a success but unfortunately I still haven’t got pregnant n the thought of fibroids growing back gives me grips I can’t bare the pain of another surgery for now I’m just hoping God will answer my call before I can go back n the doctor tells me another bad news
Karen says
Just had a abdominal myo last Thursday. I am in a lot of pain but I feel like a new woman. The fibroid was 5lbs and the size of a football. I can’t believe I waited this long. I went through a similar expieriance with blood loss, transfusion, ICU etc. I am hoping they don’t grow back (surgeon said it’s very rare). I’ll pray for all those having to have their 1st,2nd myoectomy or trying to conceive.
candy says
Surgery is invasive and painful and there are always risks of complications, regardless of what doctor you choose. I would recommend that any woman educate herself throroughly with reliable internet resources while considering this procedure. In regards to getting up after surgery- I would recommend that a woman urinate in a bedpan before getting out of bed. I have had a miomectomy and a year later a cesarean with my girl and believe me, getting up is much less painful without a full bladder pressing on your internal incision sites. When they get you up, make sure you have taken your pain meds 45 min before and ask for a bedpan, you will be SO glad u did!
wummyt says
I had my fibroid surgery on dec 20 2012 at the age of 28 and was single and still a virgin then. I got disflowered two months after surgery and married in 2014..But still haven’t conceived but I’m hoping in God soon cos dias a regrowth of another one but doctor says its still small and shouldn’t stop me frm conceiving
Sweety says
I’m 25yrs, and my abd myomectomy is scheduled for this wednesday… plz pray for me. These stories really encourage me. I have hope now that all will be fine,in God’s name and that i’ll be able to conceive one day. I really want to become a mum..
prisca says
I am 31 and having a myomectomy in 2 days. I am so scared as I have never spent more than 10 minutes in a hospital. Reading this, is very enouraging. Thank you.
Pray for me please
nancy says
Hi i’m nancy age 31 had my myo march17 2016 had a very bad pain… but i hope only prayers can brings victory …. i’m still waiting for my 1st baby … pls keep me in ur prayers
“Jesus will turns all our sorrows into Joy” praise god
Lois says
Wow. Am so so blessed,God bless u all wit it contributions. Am 30,having my surgery in 2weeks,wit ds,I can say I knw wat it takes &am prepared….may God heal us all & answers our prayers. Pls remember me in ur prayers. God bless u all
funke says
Hi.had mayo 31january 2016 but couldnt pass-out gas was told by my doc so another surgery had to be done(instestine obstruction)Am still beliveing God of conception…..cant wait to fall pregnant
Carmen says
I’m 40yrs old and just had my abdominal myomectomy 3/31/16. I was to have 5 fibroid tumors removed however once dr. cut me open they ended up having to remove 23 fibroids of various size. The experience hasn’t been bad and post surgery pain has been minimal. I’m praying for a successful recovery & that God will bless me to be pregnant within 1-2 yrs.
Glad says
Hi. I am 32 and had mine on January 6th this year. Had two big ones (7cm). I thank God the recovery has been easy and not as bad as I thought. I don’t have to wake up twice at night just to pee a drop of urine. But am praying for a baby now. So desperate, pray for me and my Hubby. God bless you all.
arit says
I had my surgery July 2015 was single, it wasn’t easy though it took me 6 weeks to be my normal myself. Just got married, and I want to be a mom like now. Done some scan, my system is ok. Need advise to get pregnant now. Praise be to Jesus.
patience says
Hi, I had my surgery on feb 2013, the surgery went well, but I’m still willing to conceive since trying. Hoping one day I will.
Lizzy says
Keep hope alive, God can do all things. I had emergency C-Section at 32 weeks january 2015, baby could not be reached because of my huge fibroids. They had to remove massive fibroid weighing 7.6kg for a chance to save baby and me, almost lost my womb and my life but I made it through. Thank God. Today I am pregnant again. God can do anything when you trust him and believe in him. Trust him ladies, your story will not be different.
R.Lewis says
Im 39 will be 40 next week. I had a myomectomy surgery 6/1/2016. Well the first two days are the hardest but trust me it gets better. I had alot of vag bleeding but nothing like my heavy periods prior to the surgery. Tomorrow will make it 2 weeks and I made it. So optimistic about having a baby, Dr says i can start trying in September. I pray ill have a baby next year. God is good, I’ll keep u updated.
Tabela Ngcwama says
Hi ladies…..i am 33yrs…just did myomectomy last week Wednesday then discharged from hospital sartaday….am recovering i will go back for check up after 2weeks……iv gat 12 yr old daughter wish to conceive soon after recovery…..May god bless all the ladies who want to conceive………
Precious says
Hi, I just had myomectomy in July 06 I am still recovering waiting for my six weeks checkup, believe me this was the worse experience of my life I still feel like I’m dead but good on the other side coz I’ve been trying to have a baby ever since I got devorced from my previous marriage so now I’m happy coz I have new hope of becoming a mother. The operation is not bad, what makes it bad is the fear of a scar . I wish my self good luck and to all woman who are victims of fibroids. Good luck Girls never loose hope keep trying I will keep you posted I’m sure 2017 I will be send you a pic ?
viny says
i really have a hard time from moving on that worst scenario in my entire existence, i’ve got a myomectomy operation just a year ago and I felt like the whole world was in my hands.,,so thumbs up to all the girls out there who are also a fibroids victim for keeping the faith alive.,
denise says
My name is denise, when I opened this page I felt good speaking right through me, because of the name denise. I just found out from my doc that I have 4 Fibroids which have to be removed in order to conceive, the word surgery freaked me out, but I read Denise story, I felt good speaking to me, my op is on Friday the 30 of september 2016 please remember me in prayer.
Wes says
wow, i needed to read this THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING. loved the scripture connected to it. YES with the Lord all things are possible. hugz.!
Nicole says
I just found out today i have fibroids i have been trying to conceive what are my options to have the chance of conceiving.i have to go to the doctor in 2 days where i assume they will tell me what sort and where they are..iam feeling confused and really just want the best chance possible to fall pregnant.
Nicole says
I only found out today that i have fibroids,see doctor in2days to find out where how big etc..feeling confused and want the best chance at falling pregnant.
Hermaine white says
I found out I have fibroids in may 2015 do a myomectomy and recovering well ..with the fibroid I have a lot of headaches now am feeling ok ..I ve done the myomectomy procedure in September 2016 and am praying for all those who have fibroids not a easy road I bled for 1year straight until my gynecology take me off the birth control pills i was talking
Creshenda says
I’m so grateful to have stumbled across this page, the stories shared here have been so encouraging. We serve an amazing God and NOTHING is impossible for Him. I’m 31 years old and I had my first myomectomy at age 26 in 2012. My husband and I have been trying to conceive for about 4 yrs now. Last year in January 2015 we found out we’re pregnant but sadly had a miscarriage at 10 weeks. We were devastated! God carried us through. In Oct 2016 we found out we were pregnant again and were overjoyed! Unfortunately, I went through another miscarriage at 6 weeks. The doc said that I have a fibroid on my uterine wall, I have 2 fibroids but this 1 in particular is causing problems. She insisted on operating. After praying about it we had peace about the surgery. So she performed the op a week later on 26th Nov 2016. I am now in my 3rd week post op. Im grateful to God for carrying us through and I believe all future pregnancies I will carry through full term and deliver healthy babies in Jesus name. I believe God has also placed doctors there for a reason. Sometimes healing is miraculous and instant and other times its a process. All I know is that of God could give Sarah a child and 90 yrs old, could give Hannah, Rachel and elizabeth, who were all barren, babies then He can and will do the same for each woman on this site. God Bless you all. Keep the faith, God is able…
Faith says
My mame is faith aged 42 and had my myomectomy on the 7 th of december this year had no child and had several fibrods removed am just hoping to be a mum one of the coming days. Am recovering am one week after the surgical operation. I hve faith that god will work out something good for us ladies let us not loose hope our god is a storry storry changer. Was so happy to be on this forum. Please pray for me for quick healing will be starting work next week. God bless you all here and congradulations to those who are now pregenant
Faith says
Thanks
kisha says
Hi I had 200 grams of fibroids removed,I have a big cut on my left side and 5 small cuts where they incisoned me on my stomach, I had my myomectomy on 5 th of December this year im two weeks now trying to recover, but still have pains in the cuts,I had my first period last week after the operation, and it’s was normal,im turining 40 next week and im scared that maybe I will not Concieve because of my age,is it possible to get pregnant after removal of fibroids at my age, if not what can I do,?and it is advisable to fertility pills two weeks after the surgery to prepare to body for conceiving?
Emy says
Hallo Ladies,
I have read some of the comments and it’s really encouraging. Had 17 fibroids removed from me 20/12/16, still in hospital as I write, recovering & should be allowed to go home on the 27/12. Hmmm, it’s not an easy road, but I made it . Initially fear of the OP was there, went in about 13:00, woke up 1:25,thought I was still in the previous day…It lasted long for me plus, i did sleep for long.
Then came the after OP experience,bikini cut pain, getting up from bed-this was a struggle, peeing- this still feels as thou am gonna pee all of my insides out. A must get up 2 days post OP, walking around, Thrombose injections, the Epic happened when my blood drainage was removed & dressed. Seconds of hell ! But, felt so much better afterwards.
Ja, what more can I say; it’s not fun here at all, but the Germans are damm good!
My Doc says it’s worth it for my Baby that’s coming. Now ,that is so soothing, can’t wait for her to arrive. Hold on, keep strong you all, It’s well , we gonna be mothers ,Joy cometh soon- those little tiny feet :D)
Shalom
Aziza says
Denise’s story is very similar to mine. I’m 35…discovered January 2016 that the i had fibroids even though medical professionals knew by transvaginal ultrasound 5 years ago but never told me, along with my primary care doctor who performed my yearly ob/gyn exams. In the five years of unchecked growth, my three fibroids went from being 2cm to 9cm, 4cm, 5cm, with an additional 3cm in the group. I was left feeling devastated, betrayed, angry and a laughing stock. I wanted to have children or at least one, and was now faced with talks of hysterectomy. I said NO! I laid on the floor many nights crying and praying to GOD researching fibroids, their growth and surgical/non-surgical treatments and testimonials all across the country. I quickly sought alternative therapies which did give some control over the excessive monthly bleeding. I also started to change my diet, exercise, my attitude, my unhealthy friendship/started a new friendship (sadly my new friend passed away suddenly from breast cancer- R.I.P. Dionne) and anything else I suspected that was a contributor to my estrogen overload aka fibroid growth. I gave myself a whole year of alternative pill therapy before I would make a surgical decision. I thought I was winning–I started feeling less bulky, more energy, lost a small amount of weight. Then July of 2016 I went in for a MRI which revealed 8 fibroids, 2 of which were showing signs of death. 8 let me know that I needed surgery and I started investigating places who could do a myomectomy and still save my fertility. By GODs sweet grace I found one.
My myomectomy surgery happened Jan 24th at Center for Innovative Gyn Care in Rockville, Md. I was stunned that they removed 25 fibroids and a ovarian cyst from me (I thought I only has 8)using a procedure called ” LAAM”. This combines very small laparoscopy and abdominal incisions while saving fertility and a recovery/return to work time of 2 weeks. The number of fibroids I had made me have a larger abdominal incision, I did lose 2 units of blood and had to be transfused, had to stay hospitalized for a day longer because of my situation, but thus far it’s been a minimally painful experience. The Co2 gas and bowel pain/ movements were significant afterwards, but lessened with rest, walking, and lots of fiber! I am early in my recovery still, but do feel that I received the best surgical outcome possible anywhere!! I am walking fully upright as if it didn’t happen and I am 2 weeks post-op. I still have not had a period yet, but given the fact that my uterus had major activity happen to it and plus losing 15lbs ontop of it. I think my body is still thinking of what to do.
In terms of fertility. I was given 6months before attempting conception to give my uterus time to get strong and heal. I also was told about the possibility of adhesions which cause scarring inside/outside the uterus and create other fertility problems. Also I know about fibroids coming back within a short amount of time. With all that being said and even though I do not have all the answers, I am now a firm believer in “if you feed them- they will come back”. You have to make dedicated changes in your foods, exercise and hair chemical routines along with getting progesterone into your body naturally. I believe you can keep them at bay longer with this routine.
I will update more as things progress, but for now I hope that my story gave a woman somewhere hope and belief in GOD.
Peace Love And Light Ladies
Nursebony says
This is such an amazing website. My prayers are with all of my sisters that have had surgeries,surgeries in the process,those whom miscarried,those trying to conceive, and the ones like me that have to make these decisions now… I too can relate I am 38 years old found out i had a uterus fibroid 11 yeas ago 2.5 centi,my gyno told me “if it dont bother dont worry about it women have been going through this for decades”. For 10 years i been living with the pain it changed my attitude to bad.I can be smiling and happy and in a mist my mood change b/c i experience sharp in stimoutanselouy in my chest ,back,abdomen,knee, leg, and my calf, it feels like im about to deliver a baby (dialation and contractions) at least 5-6 times a month even when my cycle is not on board. Not to mention I go to the emergency room at least once a month for the killing pain like im giving birth.Narcotics suck for me my body rejects the meds that i just try to deal with the pain.Moreover, I have to wear a super-super tapon additionally with a overnight maxi pad,if its not changed in 1 hour and 5 mins a messed up all of my clothes. Wow. I just got married 2 mos ago to my first love and BAM! no conception ..I know something is wrong with me..
So I have 2 fibroids one on my left uterus 10cm size of a grapefruit and a 2.5 cm on my right. My Doctor said he want to give me a HYSTERECTOMY,im like why ? he says it is easier ,,for who him are me…because i have kids and im about to enter the nursing program ..I should…I want more kids I dont have none with my husband…One doctor told me it was mental pain ( no way).
Thursday, I will be pu under to make sure the fibroid is not cancerous..I never knew it could be…..I will tell my doctor again about the Myomectomy and if needed will get a 2nd opinion . I am a believer in God and with him everything is possible…Im afraid of the cancer results .I will keep you Ladies informed .This was so helpful…..And I didnt know recovery was so intense,,,its sounds like a mother after giving birth to a child cesarian
Joanne says
Our thoughts are with you! Best of luck and keep us updated please!
Romina Arredondo says
I have fibroids, don’t know exactly how many or location. I do know that at least 3 of them are about 4 cm. The doctor told me “watch and wait,” but after a year of TTC, I’m ready to get these removed. I have an appointment with my gyno on 3/31/17 to talk about my options.
My question is, has anyone had trouble getting their doctor to agree to do this procedure. I don’t have any symptoms other than not being able to conceive :/ I am 28 BTW. I also know that I am able to conceive because 9 years ago I fell pregnant, but terminated the pregnancy (that’s another story, but this is probably my karma).
Kristy says
I am 2 weeks post surgery and fighting a fever. I never knew the surgery would be this challenging as I had a Caesarian for my beatiful baby three years ago and thought the recovery would be same. However i am very hopeful and glad i have this out the way finally as i disvovered i had multiple fibroids even before conceiving for my first. My fingers are crossed for a quick recovery and i cant wait to ttc
SMR says
I recently had a Laproscopic Myomectomy at the CIGC center. It’s worth looking it up for anyone of you who has been told by their gynac that they need to have an open myomectomy for their fibroids cause of size, position, number etc. While the recovery took longer than most patient advertised it was definitely better than the open myomectomy that was recommend by two top gynacs I met before I went to CIGC. It’s worth it ladies, look it up! I’m yet to schedule my 6 month post op consult & tests, before i can start trying for a baby and am a little tense about it. Hoping for the best.
Love to all of you!
Sylvia Richards says
Hi Denise,
My name is Sylvia and I stumbled on this page while browsing for information on myomectomy surgery and yours brought tears to my eyes.
I don’t have but want children and am due for surgery in 3 months time…
Wish me luck as I will share my story ….. Thanks Sylvia.
Agbeke says
I had my fibroid removed 25days ago, I was given an inverted T incision my doctor said she found out I have endometriosis and some of my internal organs have held together due to the endometriosis, I have been TTC for 3 years 4months, the surgeon placed me on zoladex injections for the treatment of endometriosis, I’ve taken the first dose and I’m to take 3 doses is anyone in my shoes I’ll like to have children. How soon can I start to try.
Soph says
Hi all! I’m going to be 40yrs by September, I just had myo 4wks ago. I’ve bn married for 13yrs, no baby yet. I’ve suffered series of miscarriages. I had just one fibroid removed, and d size was 21mm. Recovery hasn’t been an easy process, but I’m happy cuz it has rekindled my hopes. I hope to start trying in the next 10wks. And I can’t wait to testify. I believe my birthday present will be my pregnancy news.
May God bless us all.
Cilene says
I knew I had fibroids since 3 years ago when I went for an ultrasound due abdominal pain. They say I have multiple, but never said how many. My gynecologist told me it should not be a problem to get pregnant as their location did not seem to block anything. My husband and I started trying Nov 2016 and for my surprise I got pregnant on our first try. I miscarried at 8 weeks. Then, I got pregnant again a month after. With that, I did lots of ultrasounds to track the fibroids and one of them was growing so big on my left side, while my baby was being squeezed on the right. At 18 weeks pregnant during my US they told me there were something wrong with my baby. He had Limb Body Wall Complex, a rare birth defect not compatible to life. Only his face and arms were right. His whole body from chest to bottom was open with all his organs growing outside. His legs were twisted, he did not have genitals, and I was advised to terminated. It was a hard decision. I am still grieving. Our first baby boy. It is been almost two months now, and the doctors that performed my D&E and D&C (yes I had to have both, I had complications after the first and had blood cloths stuck in my uterus) told me I should get the big fibroid removed. It is now almost 12cm, and they say they can’t guarantee if I try to conceive again that won’t prevent the baby’s development. Even though they say the birth defect was not related to the fibroids, I feel like from the moment they said I should get it removed before trying again they were basically saying my baby did not have space to grow, and that is what caused his defect. My gynecologist from the beginning said I should not go for surgery. But now, when I lay down I can see the big bump that is not from the baby’s body anymore, but the fibroid that grew so big with pregnancy hormones. My appointment to talk about surgery is this month. I am scared as I didn’t know it would take this long for recovery. Has anyone have other reasons for removing the fibroids? I think in my case it is not affecting the fertility, but instead it is keeping me from carrying a baby through term. I eat healthy, I exercise regularly, don’t have any bad habits…and I don’t know why this happened. I am about to turn 34 and I know my clock is ticking.
Alex says
Good evening. I wanted to thank everyone for sharing your stories. Many of them brought tears to my eyes. I’ve known about my fibroids for a couple of years. At last ultrasound almost 2 years ago one was 11 cm and one was 7 cm. I’m not sure if they have grown since then or if I have more than those 2. They’ve been weighing on my mind heavily as of late. I’ve come to accept the heavy periods and terrible cramps as the norm. I’m 30 years old with no children. I’m not TTC at the moment, but believe I will be in a couple of years. I keep weighing the pros and cons of the myomectomy and cannot make a decision. I cry myself to sleep at times. My uterus is retroverted, which I believe is the reason my stomach doesn’t protrude out much, but I can feel them and it makes me sad. Fibroids run in my family. My mom had a myomectomy. Her fibroids were on the outside of her uterus before surgery, but they grew back on the inside. This and the thought of not being able to have children terrifies me. I truly don’t know if I should wait closer to the time I want children, not get the surgery at all, or what. I’m just lost. I do pray and try my best to keep the faith, but it’s hard. I feel cursed. I know the difficult times are when you should turn to God the most, but at times I feel he doesn’t hear me. I’ll keep praying. Thank you all again for your stories.
Sivaranjani Manikantan says
Hi..I am 24 and had a myomectomy on 9th Nov 2016. I had one large fibroid which caused anemia, low blood count, intense bleeding with heavy clots and abdominal and back pain. I also had low blood pressure, heavy hair and weight loss too. But soon after the myomectomy, everything went back to normal. Thanks to my gyn, she was such an amazing person. She asked me to wait for a year to start trying for a baby because my uterus needed enough time to heal. The recovery time post surgery was 4 weeks with complete bed rest and proper diet. I was married in march 2017 and now after a year I went in for a bi-yearly ultrasound scan which came out clear. So now the doc has given us the thumbs up sign. Hoping for a good news soon. Be strong ladies, nothing will stop you unless you choose to.
Tumi says
Hello Ladies
Thank you so much for your stories they really bring hope to me. My Name is Tumi and am 28 years old my Dr discovered 5 fibroids one is about 18cm. My myomectomy is scheduled for 6th of February.Hoping to get pregnant later this year. Please pray for me.I know with God all things are possible.
Sandra81 says
Hi. I am 40 years old and had a myomectomy in feb 2017 after years of procrastinating. However it was a bit too late for me because the dr told me that my eggs were now of poor quality so needed donor egg. Which I have now done and am currently pregnant late second trimester. Although it was the myomectomy was painful I don’t regret it. I would like to encourage ladies who want to have children not to procrastinate like I did and have the fibroids taken out of it increases their chances. Just been told that I will have to give birth by c section. I worry about that but God has me in his hands. Tumi I hope your op was successiful and hope that your plans for baby are on track. God bless
Tumj says
Hey Sandra thank you my operation went well they managed to remove all 5 fibroids. May doctor told me to wait 18 months before i could try to conceive but it seem to me like it just too long. I will keep you updated. Thank you.
Melody says
Had a myomectomy done last week, 17 fibroids were successfully removed, am recovering well. Thank God for seeing the procedure through. I was in pain before the surgery, backache, pelvic pain and painkillers were no longer helping. Now im off painkillers and im recovering well.
Kate says
Hi, ladies!
My heart goes to each and every one of you who is undergoing the stress of trying to get pregnant, as I’m going through this myself and my husband does too..
I’m 40 years old (will be 41 in 2 months). More than anything else in the world I wanted to have a family. If finding my soulmate wasn’t hard enough and I almost gave up when I was 37, now, after we met and got married, to have a child for my husband and myself seems like an endless trial and continuous disappointment from failures…
My husband, 43 y.o. and I, 38 y.o. got married in 2018 and tried for a few months naturally. It didn’t work. Started to go to fertility clinic FCI in Chicago suburbs in October 2018. For the past 2 years we underwent through 4 full IVF cycles and laparoscopic myoectomy 4 months ago (2 cycles it didn’t take our embryos and thise weren’t tested, 1 did take which was tested, resulted in pregnancy but we lost it to miscarriage, after 5 weeks, this January 2020, and our 4th – current one, after successful myomectomy (1 fibroid removal of 5cm) we just found out that our pregnancy has an abnormal rise in HCG and most likely it is either biochemical or ectopic pregnancy… I’m devastated! Because we already did everything that modern medicine has to offer: ERA biopsy, twice panel of immune labs, PGT of our embryos, corrected my thyroid levels with medication, my husband’s very low sperm morphology we corrected by doing IVF, yet none of our cycles turned out to be a success yet… We are awaiting for the outcome of our current pregnancy before we can move on to the next steps. My husband and I want children so much! And we would be wonderful parents. But we don’t know what to do… Doctors are not sure why it keeps happening and suggesting that it could be because of genetically defective embryos.. Anyone in our State or other States have any comments/ suggestions/ recommendations in our situation? Our Dr. says that while my eggs are older, there is no need for donors egg, that there is about half of mine that should be still normal in my age, so we had hoped that after especially PGT, and fibroid removal, we should get pregnant and have a baby finally… But no, we still are not successful for whatever reason…
Just wanted to share our story and see if anyone of you have any helpful suggestions or comments.
But if you are wondering about fibroid removal, you definitely should consult with your doctor, but ours told us that while it wasn’t the reason for our 1st miscarriage, it might have caused severe complications later during pregnancy, so it’s best to get it removed so we did, especially if it is borderline size (like mine – it was 5cm before and after pregnancy).
We pray to God that there is a higher reason why we kept on loosing every time and that our time is going to come after all, and that we will be blessed with having our own biological healthy baby one day!
Please, pray for us too. Thank you all for an opportunity to share. And good luck to all of you!! Hugs and prayers!
Kate